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Faer · Dec 27, 2010, 04:45 AM // 04:45

That sort of behavior should be discouraged, as it is also a form of scamming, and many bans have been handed out for it over the years. Do not fight scamming with scamming. Not only is it against the rules, but if such behavior spreads, it will make the Guild Wars community look bad.

We must fight violations in ways that are encouraged by ArenaNet. Those ways, of course, include sending emails to Support, or using the in-game report feature.

Snograt · Dec 31, 2010, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Even with this thread they're still trying it. Responded to a "WTS WD Gifts - 5 stacks 100k" and, sure enough, it was Special Presents. Had an interesting conversation with the scammer...

novawhiz · Dec 31, 2010, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by Snograt

Even with this thread they're still trying it. Responded to a "WTS WD Gifts - 5 stacks 100k" and, sure enough, it was Special Presents. Had an interesting conversation with the scammer...

Lol if they can so easily be exchanged why didnt he do it already then sell.

Makes me wonder how anyone can fall for these. In 2005 with primitive trade sure, but now Not only does it show you when someone changes the offer it also displays explicit text of whats in the trade if you are too lazy to hover your mouse over it.

but i guess if people didnt fall for it, people wouldnt do it

Angel Killuminati · Dec 31, 2010, 12:33 PM // 12:33

In all my years of playing GW I've never been scammed during trade. Open your eyes people and just READ.

Snograt · Dec 31, 2010, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Neither have I, Angel - and after 5+ years, this was the first time someone even tried.

Chrisworld · Jan 07, 2011, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Put 6 Frozen Ecto in next time and see what he says.

Winry Rockbell · Jan 07, 2011, 02:30 AM // 02:30

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10465331.html

I made a post there but as always my thread got closed.
Maybe people like you(people who hang out at guru) knew about Special Gifts but i didn't know until recently, and i would say most players aren't aware of this.

Anet really need to fix this, make the quest items not tradeable or change the icon. How hard could it be to change the color of the box or the ribbon?

Voodoo Rage · Jan 07, 2011, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10465331.html

I made a post there but as always my thread got closed.
Maybe people like you(people who hang out at guru) knew about Special Gifts but i didn't not until recently, and i would say most players aren't aware of this.

Anet really need to fix this, make the quest items not tradeable or change the icon. How hard could it be to change the color of the box or the ribbon?

Sorry you got scammed. That sucks.

This forum is a good resource to keep abreast of stuff like this, so I encourage you to stick around.

(too bad this thread got buried prematurely...)

Winry Rockbell · Jan 07, 2011, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Phane

You can also teach scammer a lesson. :P

maybe he didnt lose much. but all the time he spent getting 1000 presents for 80g. Priceless.

I think thats stupid... because that scammer would have resold all 1000 presents, and probably made more to sell.

And why would you have 1000 Special Presents at first place? Just in case you encounter a scammer???
Anet really should fix the Special Gift icon if there are that many scammers in GW.

novawhiz · Jan 07, 2011, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

I think thats stupid... because that scammer would have resold all 1000 presents, and probably made more to sell.

And why would you have 1000 Special Presents at first place? Just in case you encounter a scammer???
Anet really should fix the Special Gift icon if there are that many scammers in GW.

i dont think you read the SS correctly. It was someone trying to sell him Prezies and then he decided to 'scam' him back by trading 80g instead of 80k.

@Winry, im sorry but how in the hell do you buy 20 stacks without noticing they are special presents??

Winry Rockbell · Jan 07, 2011, 02:51 AM // 02:51

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

i dont think you read the SS correctly. It was someone trying to sell him Prezies and then he decided to 'scam' him back by trading 80g instead of 80k.

@Winry, im sorry but how in the hell do you buy 20 stacks without noticing they are special presents??

My mistake, i thought he sold 4 stacks of Speical Presents cos scammer offered 80g instead of 80k.

I bought them because i thought they were Wintersday Gifts cos they looks identical to Wintersday Gifts and that's what the seller was advertising, and I didn't even know Speical Presents existed back then.

Reason i made that thread was cos i tried to selling em for a test n many people offered cash n accepted em. i.e. it seems like its VERY easy to sell em. I listed some examples on my thread.

Masmar · Jan 07, 2011, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Don't be a complete idiot and you're fine

Snograt · Jan 08, 2011, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Update:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GM FruitSnake

Response (GM FruitSnake) 01/07/2011 03:52 PM
Hello,

I was able to find a violation by reviewing the game logs of the incident and the account was suspended.

Thank you for submitting your report and helping keep Guild Wars a fun and safe place to play.

Regards,
GM FruitSnake
The Guild Wars Support Team

See? Reporting does work.

Thock · Jan 08, 2011, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Snograt

Update:

See? Reporting does work.

Just suspended? They aren't getting banned for this?

Snograt · Jan 08, 2011, 03:52 PM // 15:52

I'm not sure whether scamming is worth a total ban (though I would) - but then again, it doesn't say how long the suspension is for...

Winry Rockbell · Feb 24, 2011, 10:09 PM // 22:09

I quit this dodgy game for a while after i got scammed ~500k on winterday gifts(scammer sold me speical presents instead).. obviously i didn't even know special presents existed until i got scammed.

Anet has changed the color to BLUE for the special presnets(quest item).
thanks anet, its already too late for me now n for many others... maybe use your brain a bit next time?

Voodoo Rage · Feb 24, 2011, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Snograt

I'm not sure whether scamming is worth a total ban (though I would) - but then again, it doesn't say how long the suspension is for...

Oh I would ban those guys in a heartbeat.

novawhiz · Feb 24, 2011, 10:46 PM // 22:46

They shouldn't be banned at all. You consciously submit offer and hit accept. Anet has even made the text appear if your too dam lazy to scroll over and read. Its 100% your fault if you fall for this or any of these scams.

I cant beleive you could be banned for doing that. What does that fall under, false advertising?? I say WTS Wintersday Gifts and sell you something else. Wow.

Its terrible people take advantage of people this way, but jesus how can you fall for this stuff. 5 years ago with the super primitive trade system, maybe. But now you get giant red text when they change offer, and every item is spelled out in the window. Then when you accept, the entire text of the trade is in the chat. How can you possible not notice any of that and fall for it over and over and over?

dunno why these people whine on these forums and res old threads. It sucks that that happened to you, but seriously what more can they can they do for you? Have text to speech read you the trade items? dam.

Dzjudz · Feb 24, 2011, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

They shouldn't be banned at all. You consciously submit offer and hit accept. Anet has even made the text appear if your too dam lazy to scroll over and read. Its 100% your fault if you fall for this or any of these scams.

I cant beleive you could be banned for doing that. What does that fall under, false advertising?? I say WTS Wintersday Gifts and sell you something else. Wow.

Its terrible people take advantage of people this way, but jesus how can you fall for this stuff. 5 years ago with the super primitive trade system, maybe. But now you get giant red text when they change offer, and every item is spelled out in the window. Then when you accept, the entire text of the trade is in the chat. How can you possible not notice any of that and fall for it over and over and over?

dunno why these people whine on these forums and res old threads. It sucks that that happened to you, but seriously what more can they can they do for you? Have text to speech read you the trade items? dam.

It's not worth dragging this argument up again now that they changed the icon, but still:

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If these are Special Presents, the seller's ONLY intent can possibly be to scam buyers who confuse them for Wintersday Gifts. Special Presents are completely and utterly worthless. There is no reason to buy them for even 1g, and the seller knows this. This is plain old scamming, hoping to catch people who are confused and don't know the difference between Presents and Gifts.

Kaleban · Feb 24, 2011, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

maybe use your brain a bit next time?

Perhaps follow your own sage advice?